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Dave S.'s avatar

Did you give a direct answer to the question about why white men marry Asian and Hispanic women? How’d that go over?

Ron Stauffer's avatar

HAHAHA. Yes, I did. I want to be careful when answering this publicly, though, because:

I’m married to a white woman

I’ve been married for 20 years, so all of the discourse on current dating trends is background noise to me.

I’m trying not to make a moral judgment, so much as present an observation that is so painfully obvious, yet people pretend not to notice it.

I don’t recall exactly what I said, but I think it was:

“Because they understand the assignment. White American men are marrying foreign women from Asia and South America because those women actually want to become wives. They actually know what being a wife means. Most American women are not willing to become the wives that men want. It’s literally that simple.”

It is truly bizarre to me to see the loud, angry subset of “college-educated” liberal white women who scream and throw temper tantrums about “patriarchy,” “oppression,” and all manner of feminist nonsense, insisting:

They will never submit to a man’s authority

They will not cook dinner

They will not do household chores

They will not stay at home

They will not take his last name

They do not want children

They do not want to be looked at as a sexual object

Then they have the audacity to act shocked when men go to a foreign country to find women who will. Instead, they play the victim and cry:

“WHY ARE THERE NO GOOD MEN?!”

It’s an absurdist, paradoxical comedy, but they’re not self-aware enough to grasp how ridiculous they sound.

Good god, woman! You just listed off all the things wives have been doing for husbands since literally the beginning of time, and said you don’t want to do any of them.

What do you think men want in a wife? You’ve announced to every man in your entire country that you don’t want to be a wife. And now you’re surprised? You’re describing a roommate—nothing more.

In what other circumstance can a person say, “I want the job title, all the credit, and all the prestige of the role, but don’t EVER ask me to do anything listed in the job description?”

It’s self-parody that would be funny if it weren’t so sad.

It’s time to invent a new phrase for this: let’s call them WINOs. “Wives in name only.”

That seems to be what many or most white American women aspire to be in 2025. They want to be WINOs.

Ronald D Stauffer's avatar

Ah, yes, fascinating how free-markets work, isn't it? If you go into a supermarket that sells only "American grown" apples, but you find that they are attractive but tasteless and cost $2 apiece, you can always go the the market across the street that sells scrumptious and attractive apples imported from Chile for 1$ apiece. The American-grown-only store has no reasonable basis for complaint. All they need to do to compete is find a source of great-tasting, American-grown, apples at a competitive price. Lord, I love the free-market!

Ebenezer's avatar

It's really interesting to me how reddit-brained liberal women simultaneously oppose ICE, and also oppose Asian and Latina women who want to marry an American man and come to the US for a better life.

They're against economic protectionism as a reason for immigration restriction. They don't want to enforce immigration laws. But they appear to be in favor of some sort of romantic protectionism. They've got all sorts of insults for guys who choose to marry a foreigner. And all sorts of insults for the foreigners they marry. But it never occurs to them that any of their attitudes might be the least bit xenophobic, discriminatory, or disrespectful of personal autonomy. Whatever happened to "my body, my choice" ladies? Can we have a little respect for foreign cultures and alternative sexualities here, please?

gettinolder's avatar

I would never date an HCR type let alone marry one. If an HCR wife fed me poison, I would drink it.

Wayne Johnson's avatar

I was unaware of this person.

Classic syndrome, I'm an unhappy person; therefore, NO ONE shall be happy.

Another sad, angry soul determined to drag others into their ugly neurosis. I wonder what series of events twisted her top off and made her decide she was so special.

Great post, Ron.

Choose wisely, my brothers. Good, decent, well-adjusted women exist. But you must look hard for them.

Ron Stauffer's avatar

Yes, you must look hard for them... or, as someone recently noticed, just go south of the border or overseas. It is truly remarkable how the cultural expectations of American women are compared to those of immigrants. I can count, probably on more than two hands, the number of men I know who sought a wife outside of the USA because the women actually wanted to become wives, and bear children, etc.

Frank's avatar

Is Heather Cox Richardson just another man-hating feminist, or is there more to her story than that?

Ronald D Stauffer's avatar

Part 1 of Ronald D Stauffer Comments:

As a young bachelor considering whom to marry, I thought long and hard on what was most important to me, and what I wanted to get out of life, and how I wanted to live my life, and what I wanted my home and family to be like.

After this contemplation and prayer I adopted a rule, "We need to agree on the big things, including God, religion, worldview and politics."

I simply could not imagine spending the rest of my life at odds with my wife over politics. You get to choose your life partner, thank God. But, I reasoned, before you choose your spouse you must first do the work of forming a foundation of beliefs, principles, and worldview.

So I did this work. I knew myself and my beliefs. After many hundreds of hours of research and deliberation I chose to become a God-fearing, conservative Christian, pro-life, pro-Constitution, American patriot who believes in the rule of law to protect individual liberty, life and property, and therefore committed to principle of small limited government, and self-responsibility. Therefore, I figured, it follows that you neither date, nor marry leftists, feminists, or social justice warriors, who tend (98% of the time) to be registered Democrat voters. Agreement on my principles was a deal-breaker for me. I learned that political party affiliation was an easy-to-spot marker for one's deeply held beliefs. I did not want to put politics at the top of my decision-making, but I recognized that party membership is pretty handy for whom to "rule-out" as a marriage candidate.

Why would I commit myself to a half-century of going out to work every day, to earn money to support my family, only to have my wife use her vote to give the fruit of my labor to another person or family? And women who don't want to be a wife? That's a non-starter.

Fortunately you get to choose whom you marry, so Democrats and Feminists were off my list.

But you don't get to choose your in-laws in the same way, and you take whom God gives you for children and grandchildren, and you love them no matter what. They are entitled to their own opinions, different from mine. I am determined to live with them in peace.

Cole Noble's avatar

“Tom, figuring his vote was more likely to determine the outcome of his marriage than the election’s, voted for Kamala Harris.”

What a jello-spined mentality. Was his wife making him take pictures of his ballot? Also, I can’t imagine being married to someone diametrically opposed to your belief system—be it religion or politics. That sounds exhausting

Ron Stauffer's avatar

Agreed. I would never vote for someone just to please another person.

Amusings's avatar

I've heard of Heather before but I can't place her in all the things I've read. What I have noticed is the men who have been affected by aggressively angry, arrogant, frustrated women/wives. I spoke with one who was waiting on me in a clothing store. I commented on a picture of Chelsea Handler (another pea in that pod) skiing in a bikini. He told me his wife loved Chelsea Handler and so he took her to one of her stand up shows (I immediately thought of 400 things I would rather spend my time/money on). I asked him what it was like. He said, "Well, her shtick is making fun of men like me. She makes fun of her family and guys in a pretty vulgar way. She's funny though." I walked away and thought, 'What have we done and where are we going? This is not good.'

Ron Stauffer's avatar

Yeah, it's sad. There's a lot of that. TV as a whole has been mocking men as a central trope for decades. "Dad is stupid. Men are stupid. Haha. It's funny. Laugh at it." For the most part, this doesn't happen with women.

Amusings's avatar

I think it's ok if you make fun of both sides equally. But that's rarely the case. Likewise it seems like every movie the guy hero always has a little girl or daughter. He rarely has a son he teaches to be a man.

LeftyMudersbach's avatar

Wanting to hear multiple sides to people’s beliefs I read some pieces by HCR and The Bulwark. Was that a mistake. There is no reason or common sense to their opinions and arguments. It’s all emotions and rage. Whether they believe it or just spew it to sell their writing I don’t know. I initially thought it was just to make money but watching interviews of former leftists, I am leaning towards them actually believing what they spew. It’s an emotionally manipulated cult whose opinion of themselves as morally superior to anyone to the right of them forbids thinking rationally.

Ron Stauffer's avatar

The Bulwark is a particularly pointless publication: it's basically all the standard left-wing talking points under the guise of pretending to be run by Republicans. I've blocked them on all social channels. Trump Derangement Syndrome's #1 publication, but for RINOs.

BourbonChicken's avatar

NRO types spent 20 years (correctly) calling Hillary a crook, and then voted for her. Republicans living in DC and similar areas have no idea how domesticated they are.

Ron Stauffer's avatar

[Response to a now-deleted comment] Sour grapes. None of the men I'm talking about is like that, and every single one of them is still married to a wonderful woman who bore them children and made excellent wives.

Britt McCauley's avatar

I’ve watched this unfold between my parents. They’ve never had what I would call a very healthy, happy marriage, to be honest, but things are ten times worse since Obama was elected, then one hundred times since Trump was elected. My dad went from being a lukewarm moderate Dem to a pretty strong Republican during Obama’s presidency. Then my mom went full HCR “chicken little” as my dad says. Their marriage is intact but I think it is more out of stubbornness than anything. They’re in their 60s and don’t want to start over. But my mom has threatened divorce so many times.

Ron Stauffer's avatar

Man... that is really sad. I'm sorry to hear it. How unfortunate how politics can poison a marriage.

Josh Slocum's avatar

Great article, thank you. I read the Pirate Wires piece too, thanks to you citing it.

There's a huge, important and consequential elephant in the room that no one is mentioning. It's so important that we cannot effectively understand why relationships break down this way without naming it.

Heather Cox Richardson (or anyone like her) isn't "making ordinary sane women insane." She is, as you say, an accelerant, but she is *not* causing "otherwise normal" women to "suddenly become abnormal."

It's not true that the wife in this story "was normal" before HCR. We can see very clearly that the wife is historically hostile, controlling, and histrionic. Long before HCR.

The elephant in the room that we are not naming is this: Cluster B personality disorders, especially in leftist women. Borderline personality (emotionally unstable, hysterical, makes enemies of loved ones), Narcissistic and Histrionic personalities (same Cluster, all feature narcissism).

Ron Stauffer's avatar

Fair point: in my original draft, I used the term "seemingly normal" rather than just "normal." I should have kept that. It shows that a lot is lurking beneath the surface, and consuming hysterical online content brings it into the open. We have a mental illness problem in this country for sure.

Contra Stultum's avatar

Good lord; I fear for my uncle! My aunt reads HCR and recommended I read her as well. I took a stab at one article and was puzzled at how anyone could find her interesting.

Ron Stauffer's avatar

Different tastes. Normal people (like you and me) prefer coffee in the mornings. Other people (who read HCR) drink battery acid to start their day.

Mav's avatar

This kind of propaganda is everywhere especially in legacy media. It’s always women who seem to look like shoveled old librarians too.

Brian D. O’Leary's avatar

Richardson is a loathsome creature.

Bianca Saeed's avatar

There is absolutely an epidemic of liberal white woman - especially those w/ many degrees - radicalizing younger American women. There is also an epidemic of men who don't want the responsibility of dependents. Sure, he may want an assistant to submit to him, but when it comes time to pay for her needs/wants... then he feels like he has the authority to be a financial dictator.

The more masculine, selfish women are walking side by side with men who want very little responsibility. It's almost like everyone is trending towards a same-sex relationship dynamic. Women want more passive husbands and husbands want women to cook/clean/child-rear while also paying all her own bills. It's absolutely inverted.

I agree w/ the piece about marrying outside of your culture to find a more traditional marriage arrangement. I am a woman who has been turned off by American men due to them treating relationships like they come and go while also expecting that we both act as providers for the family.

I ended up marrying a man [originally] from south Asia but raised here. Religiously, it's incumbent upon him to provide for us, with no equivalent female contribution listed. Ofc, I'm not a wretched bitch, so I take my cues from nature. I raise my children and surrender to motherhood. I make the meals and feed everyone. I do the homemaking and most of the clean up. I'd say I more than match his contributions. But this is what I'd always wanted, even when being indoctrinated in schools, I knew the nature of my female body and brain. I wanted to be a mother w/ everything in me...anyways, all to say: women are also looking to more traditional cultures for husbands due to the lack of providers/protectors amongst the American stock.

Also, I think there's an interesting false premise in all of these discussions. A women does not need to submit to the authority of a man in order to have a complementary marriage. This requirement is often listed amongst homemaking, child-rearing, etc. Why can't we just have a mutually respectful marriage in which we make decisions together? I've never understood the need to include that aspect - unless one or both of the included parties have a submission fetish. OR, I suppose, more traditional Christians practice that. Either way, men don't need to have authority over another adult - the female - in order for him to be respected, considered and to enjoy a marriage in which each person embraces their sex-based roles that are harmonious with nature.

Ron Stauffer's avatar

Yes, Christianity has traditionally held that the man is the head of the household. That is true in my family, and I was very clear about that up front before marriage. Unlike the left-wing stereotype that some assume, though, in practice, that reality doesn't come up very often. My wife and I absolutely do have mutual respect for each other and often make decisions together, but I get the final say. Always.

PNWGirl's avatar

This is an excellent point. So many American men are not willing or capable of taking on the responsibilities of providing and leading. This article blames the women for listening to HCR and being too liberal - but I think this is very much a "both sides" problem in our current culture.

My sister married a Brazilian immigrant. He earned an MBA at a good school, and devotes himself to supporting my sister and their family, and that includes supporting my mom now that she is widowed. He didnt even consider doing otherwise.

My other sister married an American guy - who always made her pay 50% of everything even when she was in grad school and he was working full time. He didn't try to advance himself professionally, and didn't bother saving up for a house or putting money in a 401k.

So my point is, that both sexes are letting each other down in liberal American culture right now. It's not just the liberal women doing everything wrong.

Bianca Saeed's avatar

Cultural observation: American men seem to tend towards stinginess + pettiness when it comes to money. They're not born like this, they're taught to be like this.

And there's this bitter reluctance to LET the woman forego an income while she raises the kids. There seems to be this mentality of, 'you owe me' and I feel like the whole submission thing is a bargaining chip.

"If you're going to not work and be at home all day, you'll at least be my personal servant then." It's like the ego is trying to compensate for the lost second income. It's really effective brainwashing from school systems and scarcity-mindset families. We're all at the mercy of the dollar kinda thing. I think that American men lack faith (since it's been taken out of culture).

If you combine that with the above sentiments, you get fear of responsibility.

Spencer's avatar

“Republicans have sold their souls to the devil”

At what point is that true? Trump literally tried to steal an election based on the lie that Biden stole the election. Granted, not all Republicans are invested in Trump’s narrative and maybe just didn’t like inflation, etc. but Trump really is a bad actor. And Groyperism is now a phenomenon among the young. I am directly experiencing it.

SSBN734's avatar

Any man who loses a wife over this kind of thing is lucky to be rid of her.

Your Average Engineer's avatar

Self hating white liberal women will be the downfall of America.